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  • BigBerthu
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    Originally posted by Alpineberlinette View Post
    Yes, the battle rope is a fantastic training aid plus a fantastic tool to develop strenght.
    I do not fully agree on the role of the rear foot. For me then there is a tendency to sway. As a result, I prefer more to make the 1 leg drill (front foot) That gives me a more stable turn and less swaying tendency, but creates all the other advantages in your list as well. And right, if the backswing is sound, there is no short circuit and consequently the task to go to the target is much safer to be performed.

    This is where Shawn is excellent. He has came up with so many training aids, tools and analogies that there's one for each of us. Because we are different in so many ways, it's marvelous that there's wide selection to choose from. For me, one leg drill and feet together drill have been somehow difficult. In the beginning of my WIG career I thought I have to master these drills if I want to be a decent golfer some day but luckily all the analogies were more for me (hammer, battering ram, battle rope). It wouldn't hurt though to master these drills!

    Swaying in backswing has not been an issue for me but after training with battle rope, I think I have been swaying during the downswing because lacking a proper anchoring.

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  • Schrodinger
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    Hi All - I've come to the conclusion that swing anchor is important but that there is no need to spend further money on books (ie.like the one I bought written by Edward Tischler) to determine biomechanically what best fits my body. Mr Tischler has done a fantastic task of identifying a spectrum of movements that may cover the golf swing but I don't think its necessary to take 'biomechanical' tests (outlined in his books for Accuracy/Power /Good Feel ).

    For example there are tests for :
    Accuracy : Swing Path, Swing Track, Wrist Lever Action, Lever Delivery Action
    Power: Swing Anchor, Torque System, Clearing Action. Axis of Symmetry
    Good Feel: Swing Linkage, Swing Slotting, Postural Release, Arc Management

    These books are good for reference purposes or for those that have learned a golf swing that doesn't fit their body and need guidance (or proof to persuade them) to change to a compatible one.

    If one does the PMD drill properly , one will achieve all the above quite naturally because your body will move in the most friendly manner possible. And while doing the PMD, grip the club so that you minimise excessive rolling of the forearms and wrists through impact. Problem solved :-)

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  • Alpineberlinette
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    Yes, the battle rope is a fantastic training aid plus a fantastic tool to develop strenght.
    I do not fully agree on the role of the rear foot. For me then there is a tendency to sway. As a result, I prefer more to make the 1 leg drill (front foot) That gives me a more stable turn and less swaying tendency, but creates all the other advantages in your list as well. And right, if the backswing is sound, there is no short circuit and consequently the task to go to the target is much safer to be performed.

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  • COSTA103
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    Originally posted by BigBerthu View Post
    Until I saw Shawn's "Rope a Dope Your Swing!" -video I wasn't aware how important it is to use the rear leg (inner arch) when starting the backswing. I bought a battle rope immediately and started practicing and every video I've watched for the last few years made sense after training with rope.

    I've noticed it's very difficult for me to embrace the techniques and the "message" of the videos without seeing Shawn himself. This rope has been the biggest swing aid for me to understand the message and do things more right. And trust me, I have used a lot of them! Of course every video has helped me to find the right path but I think the battle rope is a huge discovery!

    What has happened to my swing after starting training with the dope rope:

    - More weight on rear leg on setup
    - Rear leg turns the body out of the way (rope is heavy and you MUST use the rear leg to pull it) and the club goes to backswing without crashing
    - While weight decently on the rear leg in the backswing, easier to stay behind the ball
    - When starting downswing, MUCH easier to stay behind ball -> Front leg clears the front hip more powerfully
    - Baton swirl comes naturally when anchored so securely
    - Understanding how I have to really keep the weight inside my feet to do all this
    - So bolted on the ground during swing, I can really produce the velocity from ground up using my legs
    - Don't have a clue what ACU is doing during the swing!!!
    - Understanding how I have to adjust my grip to feel the hammer&nail
    - No matter how slow or hard I swing, the technique stays together

    Thanks Shawn for all this! I played yesterday in a golf simulator and hit so many pure golf shots that I... just... can't.... wait.... the golf season to start!

    Hi guys

    ‚ÄčI think THIS is a major break-through in its OWN right!

    Good for you!

    Be water, my friends
    Dude abides


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  • BigBerthu
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    Until I saw Shawn's "Rope a Dope Your Swing!" -video I wasn't aware how important it is to use the rear leg (inner arch) when starting the backswing. I bought a battle rope immediately and started practicing and every video I've watched for the last few years made sense after training with rope.

    I've noticed it's very difficult for me to embrace the techniques and the "message" of the videos without seeing Shawn himself. This rope has been the biggest swing aid for me to understand the message and do things more right. And trust me, I have used a lot of them! Of course every video has helped me to find the right path but I think the battle rope is a huge discovery!

    What has happened to my swing after starting training with the dope rope:

    - More weight on rear leg on setup
    - Rear leg turns the body out of the way (rope is heavy and you MUST use the rear leg to pull it) and the club goes to backswing without crashing
    - While weight decently on the rear leg in the backswing, easier to stay behind the ball
    - When starting downswing, MUCH easier to stay behind ball -> Front leg clears the front hip more powerfully
    - Baton swirl comes naturally when anchored so securely
    - Understanding how I have to really keep the weight inside my feet to do all this
    - So bolted on the ground during swing, I can really produce the velocity from ground up using my legs
    - Don't have a clue what ACU is doing during the swing!!!
    - Understanding how I have to adjust my grip to feel the hammer&nail
    - No matter how slow or hard I swing, the technique stays together

    Thanks Shawn for all this! I played yesterday in a golf simulator and hit so many pure golf shots that I... just... can't.... wait.... the golf season to start!

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  • Shawn Clement
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    What a great thread you guys! And yes, the episode 9 of the off season training would be the perfect remedy here! Shawn

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  • Schrodinger
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    Many thanks again Gary - I've also just reviewed the 'arms falling in front' and 'hips clearing drill' , 'backswing weight shift' videos. So getting there (I think) to fix this follow-through problem of mine.

  • Gary
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    Hi Schrodinger,

    It is very important to do the drills like Kettle Bell, Hammer Through, One Leg and other drills.

    These drills show you how the TALL TURNTABLE (shoulders, ribcage and pelvis) turn as one unit over the hips.

    I have realized the importance of keeping the weight of my head supported by the inside of my forward side.

    You want to keep your sternal notch braced against your forward side.

    The drills will teach and reinforce these positions and feelings.

    See the link to some of these drills below:

    http://wisdomingolf.vbulletin.net/bl...tes/542-drills

    Hope this will help you,

    Gary

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  • Schrodinger
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    Hi All
    The reasoning for my question about swing anchor was because I thought this might explain why I can't follow through properly (it really is a big painful strain). Therefore I thought that I'd clear better in the follow-through by pivoting around my rear (right hip) which seems so much easier for me than trying to pivot around my front hip (left).

    I must apologise as I've drifted down the wrong path for a root cause.

    I've resurrected an old habit of rotating my shoulders 'around' ,forgetting Shawn's advice about letting that right shoulder feel as if it was going under my chin (while the left above and behind). For some anatomical reason , having a steeper shoulder turn seems to allow me to follow-through with less pain and strain. So obviously a flatter shoulder plane is somehow restricting the clearance of my hips but bugging me why (must be something to do with my body not allowing it because I'd lose balance - don't know).

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  • jmc
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    Schrodinger,
    If you have the premium channel look at his latest training session 9. The drill with the ribbon starting with the one legged drill then moving on into the full swing. This will get you to have your anchor without thinking about it. These training sessions are really great and I highly suggest to everyone if you haven't tried it give it a whirl. Good luck!

  • Schrodinger
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    Many thanks Gary - No , I didn't see this one before. I'll try and do the drill properly and see if I can keep my balance in the follow-through.

  • Gary
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    Schrodinger,

    Have you done the One Leg Drill?

    See this video:

    http://youtu.be/XwFfpzltvM0

    Also, look at this post from @Alpinberlinette

    http://wisdomingolf.vbulletin.net/fo...nd-1-leg-drill
    Last edited by Gary; 01-02-2016, 03:27 PM.

  • mrfixit
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    Thanks for the tips, folks! My internet connection has been kind of wonky so I haven't been able to watch the videos but I will check those out as soon as I can.

    I remember in the video series where he talks about setting up for the fade and draw by moving the ball back and forwards in his stance and then setting up behind the ball and I seem to recall he talks about it in the door frame video as well.

    What I'm feeling is that my head and weight are centered over the inside of my left foot BEFORE I set the club head behind the ball.

    Update: Thank you SO much! That really cleared it up for me and I'm going to practice at the net today.
    Last edited by mrfixit; 01-01-2016, 01:23 PM. Reason: Got to watch the videos finally!

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  • Schrodinger
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    Actually , this is something I wasn't aware of (posted by HappyRoman in GARY'S WIG NOTES).

    ""The axis of rotation of the golf swing is from the sternum notch to the inside of the forward/lead foot" .

    I always thought the axis of rotation was a line drawn from your centre of swing (Sternum Notch) through your COG.

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  • Gary
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    Mrfixit,

    Go to the Blog (GARY'S WIG NOTES) and go to the section titled Braced Tilt. There are plenty of videos about how you should brace yourself and also commentary by Shawn and the members of the Forum..

    I would start what Costa recommended and then get deeper into it by watching the videos. If you have any more questions after please ask for help from all of us.

    Thanks,

    Gary

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